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May 2nd, 2002
REPUBLICAN PARTY LEADER CALLS FOR ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALESTINIANS ON PRIME TIME TALK SHOW
CHRIS MATTHEWS, host:
Congressman Dick Armey of Texas leads the Republicans in the US House of Representatives.
Congressman Armey, Mr. Majority Leader, why is the Congress about to pass a resolution supporting Israel at a time that the president is
trying to walk a line between Israel and its Arab neighbors?
Representative RICHARD ARMEY (Republican, Majority Leader): Well, we've had--we feel very strongly in the House of Representatives
that we have a moral obligation to protect the safety, security and freedom of
Israel. And the Congress wants to speak on that, both bodies want to do so.
We've discussed it with the White House, and everybody is comfortable. We
will go--go ahead with that tomorrow. It is very important to the world that
Israel be--the freedom of Israel be protected and honored.
MATTHEWS: What good is this going to do anybody?
Rep. ARMEY: Well, I think, again, we--we want to make the point...
MATTHEWS: To whom?
Rep. ARMEY: The president of the United States is trying to make a transition in foreign policy from what it has been to what it must be
in the future. We can no longer appease aggressors in the Middle East. There
obviously will never be a peace. The goal is no Jews between them and the
sea, and we must make it very clear that if you want to talk about peace and
talk the talk, you must walk the walk, and that must be respect for Israel's
right to live freely, safely and securely.
MATTHEWS: OK. Let's talk about the realities over there. There's a fight between the Arabs and the--and the Israelis over who owns
the Pal--all of Palestine. Do you support the idea that there be a Palestine
state alongside Israel?
Rep. ARMEY: I am perfectly content to have a Palestinian state alongside Israel if it is a state that honors others borders.
MATTHEWS: You are in total, 180 disagreement with Tom Delay who said this week that the entire West Bank belongs to Israel and it
belongs to that country that's not an Arab country.
Rep. ARMEY: I...
MATTHEWS: It should not have a statehood.
Rep. ARMEY: No, I'm perfectly content to have a Palestinian state. I am not content to give up any part of Israel for that purpose of
that Palestinian state.
MATTHEWS: Wait a minute. Tom Delay's, whose resolution you're going to put on the floor tomorrow and schedule, has said that the
entire West Bank, he calls it Judean Samaria, belongs to Israel. How can you
say that this resolution doesn't support the Delay position which is Israel
has a right to grab the entire West Bank?
Rep. ARMEY: No, I--I'm content to have Israel grab the entire West Bank. I'm also content to have the Palestinians have a homeland
and even for that to be somewhere near Israel, but I'm not content to see
Israel give up land for the purpose of peace to the Palestinians who will
not accept it and would not honor it. It is time to...
MATTHEWS: Well, where do you put the Palestinian state, in Norway? Once the Israelis take back the West Bank permanently and annex it,
there's no place else for the Palestinians to have a state.
Rep. ARMEY: No, no, that's not--that's not at all true. There are many Arab nations that have many hundreds of thousands of acres of
land and--and soil and property and opportunity to create a Palestinian state.
MATTHEWS: So you would transport--you would transport the Palestinians from Palestine to somewhere else and call it their state?
Rep. ARMEY: I would be perfectly content to have a homeland, just as--most of...
MATTHEWS: But not in Palestine?
Rep. ARMEY: Most of the people who now populate Israel were transported from all over the world to that land and they made it their
home. The Palestinians can do the same, and we're per--perfectly content to
work with the Palestinians in doing that. We are not willing to sacrifice
Israel for the notion of a Palestinian homeland.
MATTHEWS: Right, no. No, that's not the question and that's not your answer. The question here is: What is the future of the
Palestinians who are fighting Israel right now? You say there future is somewhere besides Palestine. That runs in the way of US policy going back to
1948. It runs--it runs completely against the president's policy and every
policy I've heard a president take, which is that Israel has to give up its
settlements on the West Bank and give it back to the Arabs in exchange for
peace. You say the deal should be the Palestinians leave?
Rep. ARMEY: That's right. Palestinians say the deal should be the Israel--that--that the Israelis leave.
MATTHEWS: Have you talked about this with the president?
Rep. ARMEY: I happened to believe that the Palestinians should leave.
MATTHEWS: Have you ever told George Bush, the president from your home state of Texas, that you think the Palestinians should get up and
go and leave Palestine and that's the solution?
Rep. ARMEY: I'm probably telling him that right now. This is...
MATTHEWS: Have you thought this through?
Rep. ARMEY: I have thought this through. I've thought it through for a lot of years. I believe that Israel is the state for the
Jewish people. It needs to be honored. It needs to be protected.
MATTHEWS: Yeah. That's not what you're saying. You're saying Israel should expand its borders to the Jordan River...
Rep. ARMEY: No.
MATTHEWS: ...and kick out all the Palestinians? That's what you just said.
Rep. ARMEY: I am--I am content to have Israel occupy that land that it now occupies and to have those people who have been aggressors
against Israel retired to some other arena, and I would be happy to have
them make a home. I would be happy to have all of these Arab nations that
have been so hell bent to drive Israel out of the Middle East to get together, find some land and make a home for the Palestinians. I think it
can be done.
MATTHEWS: So the president, who has been dutifully, for the last couple of weeks, trying to get the Israeli army to withdraw from the
West Bank, should stop that, let the Israeli defense force take over the
West Bank and hold it and make it part of Israel? You completely disagree
with the president's policy then?
Rep. ARMEY: I am--I am perfectly content to have Israel hold and occupy the land that it has at this moment.
MATTHEWS: Well, how about though-how about the Jenin in Samaria? Tom Delay, whose measure you're putting on the floor tomorrow, says
that all the West Bank, Jenin, Judea, Masada, everything belongs to Israel.
It's not occupied territory. It's Israeli. Is that your position?
Rep. ARMEY: Well, first of all, Chris, I think we have to be real careful on how you are interpreting jo--Tom's provision. I think Tom's
provision is principally and primarily that the Jewish people have a right
to defend themselves.
MATTHEWS: Well, just to repeat, you believe that the Palestinians who are now living on the West Bank should get out of there?
Rep. ARMEY: Yes.
MATTHEWS: OK. Thank you very much. More with Congressman Dick Armey coming back. You're watching HARDBALL.
(Announcements)
Last night on MSNBC's popular program Hardball, House Republican Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-TX) recommended the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians from their land and endorsed Israel's illegal conquests of the
occupied territories.
Armey stated that he was "content to have Israel grab the entire West Bank" and was "not content to give up any part of Israel for the purpose of
a Palestinian state."
"We are not willing to sacrifice Israel for the notion of a Palestinian homeland," Armey continued, asserting that "the Palestinians should leave."
Hardball host Chris Matthews repeatedly gave Armey the opportunity to clarify that he was not calling for the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinians
from Palestine, but Armey was unrepentant:
MATTHEWS: Well, just to repeat, you believe that the Palestinians who are now living on the West Bank should get out of there?
Rep. ARMEY: Yes.
Armey's remarks are only the latest of a number of calls in the mainstream media for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their homes
in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip and the targeting of the Palestinian civil infrastructure.
Last year, on 15 August 2002, in an article titled "Mideast Violence: The
Only Way Out", Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer called for a
'Berlin Wall' type solution to separate Palestinians from Israel and:
A lightning and massive Israeli attack on every element of Arafat's police state infrastructure -- the headquarters and commanders of his
eight(!) security services, his police stations, weapons depots, training
camps, communications and propaganda facilities (radio, TV, government-controlled newspapers) -- with a simultaneous attack on the
headquarters and leadership of Arafat's Hamas and Islamic Jihad allies.
Krauthammer further counselled Israel to:
Strike and expel.
This year, in February 2002, USA TODAY columnist Emmanuel A. Winston penned a call for "resettling the Palestinians in Jordan" (See USA Today
publishes call for ethnic cleansing, The Electronic Intifada, 22 February
2002).
1. ETHNIC CLEANSING IS MORALLY UNJUSTIFIABLE - Calling for the removal of
Palestinians from their own land, occupied for the last 35 years by Israel
is akin to calling for the removal of Jews or African Americans from New
York or Alabama. In response to similar calls voiced by Slobodan Milosevic
in 1998-99, the US and NATO launched a war on Serbia for trying to ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosovo. Following
the ethnic cleansing horrors of the previous century, there must be zero tolerance of
politicians, media commentators and publications that express or give space
to extreme racist views. An entire new regime of international law has been
refined and codified over the last half century to prevent ethnic cleansing
and other similar atrocities.
2. INTERNATIONAL LAW PROHIBITS THESE MEASURES - International Law clearly
forbids the acquisition of territory by force and the expulsion of civilians
by an occupying army.
United Nations' General Assembly and Security Council resolutions 242 (1967), 252 (1968) and 338 (1973), among others, clearly state that the
acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible.
The Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War unambiguously states:
Article 49: Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory
of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are
prohibited, regardless of their motive.
1. Contact Mr. Armey by phone or e-mail, reminding him that the U.S. Government is a signatory to the Geneva Convention relative to the
Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, citing Article 49, which unequivocally forbids the illegal and immoral ethnic cleansing he
recommended on Hardball, while stressing the necessity of the US setting the
pace, as a world leader, by respecting and upholding international law.
2. Write letters to the editor of your local newspaper deploring Armey's statement and asserting that no U.S. politician should ever advocate
such deplorable actions [useful tool: EI's media activism guide].
3. Monitor the media you read and watch for future U.S. support for ethnic cleansing and bring them to our attention.
4. Please write original letters and do not simply copy & paste the information above. As always, be brief, polite, quote accurately, and
include your name, address, and telephone number (which most publications
require to ensure publication). Send copies of any responses or printing of
your letter (including the original, if it was edited) to info@electronicIntifada.net. Please forward a copy of any letter you send to
info@electronicIntifada.net.
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